Begin Reading the reports and keyboarding

Well for a few days I have found and begun to read the reports again after a long while and I found all my backed up files. Dorothy Sent me a report that has all my information on my line plus where her line comes from. It is great not to have to struggle finding it on my own. Karen's reports I began reading also; But I find reading more than one report is more than I can handle as I get confused so I decided I would key all Dorthy's report information first and then when finished move on to Karen's report. I also have all the research Data my Aunt Agnes sent me for the Sweets. Note: these women are so beautiful for helping me with our research I am so grateful to them. They also sent documentation with the reports. My cousin Lynnda is another beautiful person helping Her mom was a wonderful Aunt and contributed a lot of information way back in 1984 when I needed help finding my Father and reconnecting with him. She was the one that helped me when I had no where to turn to. GOD bless her and I miss our talks. I also got some information from a website that has allowed me to glean information of another line of the Sweet's. I don't know if this is cheating or not. I was thinking it was a public site and it is another branch coming directly from John and Alpha so why not use the information to my advantage for the areas I don't have; Besides I do not have the money to pay Ancestry for the Data I want from all the record places. Geese the amount of money I would have to pay for all the different data bases is way out of line. They want a fee for Ancestry, then another fee for census, then another for death data and yet another for each data base which could easily be a hundred dollars a month just to access the data bases. I wish I was rich but I am not so I rely on help from the living family. I have found out that my Sweet roots have a lot of turmoil in the recent century as in 1900 to present. They are scattered and combative in some areas as in family clashes divorce and such. It has made the work I and others do much harder as family are real weary of questions being asked let alone filling out a form with family information. Sometimes the family has kept secrets and children just don't know what has happened and so the only choice to find out is sort through records in data bases. I have been at this since 1984 and I some times wonder why but it is all worth it meeting new family members like the ones I have been in touch with. I just want to thank all the women and men that have helped me as we continue to work together. I hope before I go back to my Lord and God that I can give the gift of our heritage to all my relatives for free so that future generations will not have to struggle as I and others have.

Well Grandsons are home so off to play with them.

Ker Ching New Information John Chandler helps me understand

John write back to me with the following response: 

My comments are in red underlined. 

Bob wrote:

> I participated in the original Sweet DNA project.

... 

> I keep thinking some one must have either changed their name or was
> in hiding. On my DNA site I have some Sweet names pop up but there
> are many that are not Sweet's. Hmm I copied this to show you what I
> mean.:
> 
> This is the list of names without their contact info.
> 
> 12 Marker - Exact Match 29 Match(es)
> 
> Mr. Ricardo Enrique Vela  
> Bill Ray Hampton  
> Mr. Walter Blair Murray MacFarlane  

...

> As you can see none of the family names match. So there is either a
> split way back or we just are not Sweet's. Meaning a name changed
> from the real name?

You shouldn't stop after looking at the first category in the match
list.  Next comes a batch of 12-marker comparisons with a distance
of 1, including a Sweet.  The fact is that you have a mutation on
the second marker, not shared by anyone else in your Sweet group, and
so you actually do not have any exact 12-marker matches among your
nearest kin in the project.  There is a further complication, though.
Your group's DNA pattern (designated as "Pattern 1" in the project)
is so common in the European population, that most people with that
pattern have chosen to prevent any 12-marker comparisons from being
made to their test results.  As a result, even if you *did* have an
exact match, he might very well not show up on your list because
he would have seen the same list of matches with all different
surnames and would have opted out of 12-marker comparisons before
you arrived on the scene.  Indeed, that is the explanation of why
your distance-1 list has only one Sweet on it, instead of the 28
who can be seen at the Sweet project web site -

    http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeeg680/dnasweet/

If you then look at the next category on your list, the 25-marker
matches at distance 1, you'll find there are five of them, and *all*
five are named Sweet.  Actually, if you go to the Sweet project
site, you will find 18 such matches in all -- the rest are simply
"invisible" to you at your private DNA site for one reason or another.

> Maybe I do not understand how to interpret the DNA system.I do know
> that I probably will have to muster up some intestinal fortitude and
> write to all the contacts that have an exact match of my DNA to find
> out more about this. I at one point thought I may have a connection
> to the NY or Rode Island Sweet's but now I am not sure.

No, you really shouldn't focus on the 12-marker exact matches, for the
reasons I gave above.  It would truly be a waste of time to write to
any of the non-Sweet matches you see, for a very important reason:
not a single one of them is confirmed as being genetically close in
the 25-marker comparison.  To put it another way, most of them have
been tested at 25 markers and confirmed to be *not* genetically
close after all.

The take-away message is that you do indeed have a close affinity with
the Rhode Island Sweets (but it's still up to you to find the paper
trail that shows what the exact connection is).

        John Chandler


I am again indebted to John for helping me understand and I will be having the next DNA test done this month. Also I will check the site mentioned and take a closer look at the names and see if contact will be fruitfull; but first do some reading and studying before I step forward. I guess my statement about not understanding the DNA results was right. I feel stupid not ignorant but this too shall pass.I am in great spirits and hopes this is going to lead to a clear breakthrough for many other Sweet's.

Make this note to all my relatives especially cousins and uncle's! You should get the DNA tests for the Sweet's as the more that take the tests the more information to work with for positive results.

Past emails with the then John Chandler who has since moved on.

These are discussions we had:

I hope this doesn't bore some one to Death.
This was the information that led to me not being part of the Sweet's they were studding.
You can visit this site for the direct results as I can't find the email from when John Chandler told me I was not part of the followed group. Sweet/Swet DNA Project

Bob,
   Thanks for the test file.  It appears that your line is one of many
that participated in the settlement of upstate New York.  That area 
attracted settlers from all over New England, including Rhode Island,
and so it is quite possible that you are related to one of the Sweet
lines already in the DNA project.  It is unfortunate that your earliest
known ancestor was named John, and with no confirmed dates, too.  That
makes it likely his origins will always be a little uncertain.  For the
DNA project, we need at least a few lines with solid anchors for
comparison with all the others who have (inevitably) some question marks
in their ancestry.  I'm afraid I can't justify digging into the pot to
pay for a new kit for you (and, besides, the pot doesn't have enough
in it anyhow).  However, I do have the one kit already on order with a
$25 discount, and I'll stand by my offer to assign that one to you, or
to one of your cousins.  You mentioned a cousin who might help out, and
perhaps you could persuade him to take the test himself if he won't pay
for yours.  Let me know what you come up with.  Good luck.

     John

And this later on:

This is the ninth distribution of the Sweet/Swett DNA project open
directory.  The project has been growing slowly, but it has indeed
been growing, and so, after more than ten months, it is time for
another distribution.  There are seven new members since the last
notice, and there are also many new results posted on our web site.
Three of the new haplotypes are near-matches for the Pattern 1
cluster, and one matches Pattern 2.  Three others do not seem to match
anyone yet.

In the seventh bulletin, I mentioned that the SMGF database included a
SWEAT and urged all members to use the search index to check for
near-matches of their own results at SMGF.  Since then, the SMGF
database has added the capability of searching by surname alone, and I
was able to find this SWEAT and determine his haplotype and examine
the pedigree he submitted with his DNA sample.  The pedigree states
that he is a descendant of John SWETT of Newbury, but his haplotype
does not match Pattern 2 at all well.  That may mean there is a
mistake in his genealogy, but, since he is not contactable, we
cannot compare notes.  The best we can say at this point is that
one of the links in his line was apparently conceived before the
parents were married, and the biological father may have been
someone other than the husband.

The latest is yet another match to the pair 13407 and 23714 who share
a mutation from Pattern 1.  This new member, 60265, seems to be linked
to 13407, even though 23714 has not yet made the hoped-for breakthrough.

Another recent development is the entry into our project of members
who started out as participants in the Genographic Project (sponsored
by the National Geographic, among others).  That project is attracting
interest in DNA testing from the standpoint of anthropology, but is
now beginning to draw some participants over into genealogy as well.
Of the three who have done so, one matches Pattern 1, one matches
Pattern 2, and one has no matches yet.

You will find that the list of recipients of this message consists of
the list of all participants who have so far opted into the list.
Instead of each person's name, you will see the FTDNA kit number.  If
you notice an entry in the results table or the lineage page and want
to compare notes with that person, just look for the kit number in the
above recipient list and send a message to that address.  If you have
trouble getting through, let me know.  If the person you want to contact
has not yet joined the list, then you'll just have to wait.

                                      John Chandler

Next:

This is the tenth distribution of the Sweet/Swett DNA project open
directory.  The level of activity has picked up again in the project,
and so I'm sending out a new bulletin after only a month.  There is
one new member since the last notice, and there are also some new
results posted on our web site.  One member seems to have a problem
with his email and/or has changed it (47939).  The listed address did
not work last time, but I am trying it again in hopes that the
situation has gone back to normal.  If not, I will investigate and
will let you know when I have a working address again.

The latest development is an interesting one: after three years of
operation, the project has finally reached the stage of including
members from more than one haplogroup.  Until this past month, all
members of the project were in haplogroup R1b, the predominant
haplogroup in western Europe, but we now have three members in the
second most common haplogroup (I).  Two of these new members are
related, but the third is separate.  There is no evidence of a
connection between the two and the one, aside from the fact that all
three use the surname SWETT.  Genetically, the two are too far from
the one to be related within genealogical time, but, for the time
being, these three together are designated "Pattern 3".  We may need
to subdivide this pattern when and if more haplogroup I members come
along.

There is a new feature on the main web page -- if you click on a
kit number in Table 1, you navigate directly to the location of
that person on the lineage page (or to a list of "lineage not
available" at the top of the page).

One more detail about the three-way match of 13407, 23714, and 60265.
All three have now been extended to 37 markers, and they differ only
at the compound marker CDY.  60265 splits the difference between the
other two and thus reinforces the likelihood that all three are
closely related.

You will find that the list of recipients of this message consists of
the list of all participants who have so far opted into the list.
Instead of each person's name, you will see the FTDNA kit number.  If
you notice an entry in the results table or the lineage page and want
to compare notes with that person, just look for the kit number in the
above recipient list and send a message to that address.  If you have
trouble getting through, let me know.  If the person you want to contact
has not yet joined the list, then you'll just have to wait.

                                      John Chandler


next:

This is the eleventh distribution of the Sweet/Swett DNA project open
directory.  There are four new members since the last notice, and
there are also some new results posted on our web site.  The latest
additions have been in the SWETT group, which now has nine matching
haplotypes.  Meanwhile, two more participants have just joined.

There is a new feature on the main web page -- the entries in Table 1
(the DNA results) which are continued in Table 2 are marked with an
"arrow" at the end of the row.

You will find that the list of recipients of this message consists of
the list of all participants who have so far opted into the list.
Instead of each person's name, you will see the FTDNA kit number.  If
you notice an entry in the results table or the lineage page and want
to compare notes with that person, just look for the kit number in the
above recipient list and send a message to that address.  If you have
trouble getting through, let me know.  If the person you want to contact

has not yet joined the list, then you'll just have to wait.

Email

I think I will create a form letter that I can sent to all the DNA matches on my DNA site and see what flies. Maybe If I refer them to my Blog and the Blog I am following with a link in the email it may allow them to choose not to contact me but check the blogs anonymously. I think I will post the email here before I send it so it may receive creative criticism.

Library

Alright I guess I am going to have to google the library and see if I can buy the book or find some one to copy the book so I can read it or I will have to plan a trip to drive out there.
Check this forum post :

I have ancestors named John Sweet born March 18,1767 and Alpha ? born Sept. 25 1766 in Oswego, New York but died in Seeleys Bay, Ontario. Would like to know names listed for the Sweet Cemetery in Oswego,if possible.

And this post :

Were there any Peleg Sweet's listed on that list?
Celina

and this post :

Borden Sweet Cem located in Oswego, New York on Middle Road many Sweet names listed.


Yep I think there was a BIG reunion in Oswego! But Who were they? Maybe I am just chasing my tail. I should learn more on how to do research.

Sweet information continued

First of all this post from my Ancestry site forum.:

Worden Sweet Cemetery, Scriba, NY

You Wrote:
A brief review of your first blogspot suggests that you (or another family member) has participated in the Sweet DNA study with little results.
My Answer:
I participated in the original Sweet DNA project.

You wrote:
I am aware of two descendents of Oliver who relocated to Scriba ... we match the pattern for the Rhode Island Sweets, which suggests our two lines are not imeediately related.

My reply is:
Now that just is quite curious to me. I keep thinking some one must have either changed their name or was in hiding. On my DNA site I have some Sweet names pop up but there are many that are not Sweet's. Hmm I copied this to show you what I mean.:

This is the list of names without their contact info.

12 Marker - Exact Match 29 Match(es)

Mr. Ricardo Enrique Vela
Bill Ray Hampton
Mr. Walter Blair Murray MacFarlane
Mr. Roger Charles Pask (Y37)
Raymond Andre (Y37)
John Fitzgibbon (Y67)
Mr. Robin Lane Hanson (Y67)
Robert Labass (Y67)
Cecil Cassell Watson
Lawrence Carlyle Hartley (Y67)
Michael Surtees Chisholm (Y67)
Mr. Martin Joseph Malley
Archie Torando (Y37)
Mr. Edwin J. Canter (Y37)
Thomas Main (Y37)
R. Michael Medina
Mr. Edward Ramirez Guevara Jr. (Y67)
Walter Winschell
Alton R. Hampton (Y67)
Mr. Thomas Michael Rubick
Mr. Richard David Acheson Jr. (Y37)
Pomeroy Junior Moore (Y37)
Mr. Jaime Manuel Crowe (Y25)
Mr. Julian Conrad Juergensmeyer
Stephen Oliver Cleary

As you can see none of the family names match. So there is either a split way back or we just are not Sweet's. Meaning a name changed from the real name?

Maybe I do not understand how to interpret the DNA system.I do know that I probably will have to muster up some intestinal fortitude and write to all the contacts that have an exact match of my DNA to find out more about this. I at one point thought I may have a connection to the NY or Rode Island Sweet's but now I am not sure.

I sure appreciate your response to me.

Then I continued to read some other posts because Oswago,NY is next to or as you might say a stone's throw from Scriba. It seems all roads lead to Oswago,NY.

Other Posts :

The sexton of the cem was Henry Sweet who married Minnie McCready. They had one daughter Cora Sweet who was murdered at the age of 12 in 1905. I mention this because the newspaper articles list relatives who traveled to her funeral. Gives many names of other family members and places. I heard there was a list of cem. and the names on Cyndi's list perhaps. The articles of Cora Sweet were in the Oswego Daily Palladium, Oswego, NY. cem. named Borden Sweet Cem. Hope this helps..

Brenda, Could you please me a more specific address for the library in order to obtain a list of Sweet cemetary names from Oswego NY? I saw your message today 4/28/00. My grandfather was born in oswego in 1865. His name william frank sweet. I don't have too much info on him. Maybe his parents were Henry and minnie. Not sure if mccready?? He did have an aunt Cora, but she lived into her 70's. and a sister named Bertha. Please send info to(email address deleted to keep privacy)Thank you. Louise Sweet Comer in Arizona

Sorry eveyone I was wrapped up in a wedding for my neice but will go to the library this week and get the list and post it.
Oswego City Library
East Second Street
Oswego, Ny 13126

Would love to have a list of names buried there... Not sure where my relatives were buried - but they lived for a time in Moores Fork... George A. Sweet and his wife Mary.

As I said earlier ALL ROADS LEAD TO OSWAGO, New York! Seems like all the Sweet's that are not part of the DNA original Sweet's from Ireland with the Coat or arms end up on Oswago! This is what I am finding over and over again. What happened in Oswago and or New York? I am perplexed! More research is definitely needed or a living family member that can answer these questions.

Sweet Cemetary Listing on Ancestry.com

I am not the only Sweet decedent looking for ancestors linked to John and Alpha Sweet. Wish I could check out the cemetery But I now think there was or is some thing that happened just before the move made to and after Oswago, New York. Well seems to be a lack of paper trail and it should not surprise me.


Brenda Rowe  :
Borden Sweet Cem located in Oswego, New York on Middle Road many Sweet names listed.


 sweet:

Do you have a list of names in the Sweet Cemetery?
Celina

 Brenda Rowe:
 I can get a list of the names at the library


Celina Salvador:
Were there any Peleg Sweet's listed on that list?
Celina

 MaryEllenTimm:
I have ancestors named John Sweet born March 18,1767 and Alpha ? born Sept. 25 1766 in Oswego, New York but died in Seeleys Bay, Ontario. Would like to know names listed for the Sweet Cemetery in Oswego,if possible.

 Mike Enerson:
This is my wife's Sweet line too. I am finding that many of John and Alpha's children went to Wisconsin, but my wife's line stayed in Ontario. Love to swap info. Sorry but I don't have info on the cemetery in Oswego.

 Carol Sweet-Borgmann:
Don't have list of cemetery, but this is my direct line and am still trying to continue the search of John's parents name and Alpha's. As far as Alpha I am rearching her last name which could either be Lewis or Coon. Would love to swap any info.

More digging and reading.

Worden Sweet Cemetery, Scriba, NY

 

 Visited the forums at : Ancestry.com's Forums

 

 

My message sent:

 

This is my first break. Some one that can go to a cemetary and look at the names there. Here is where I am stopped because oswego, New York court house burned down and no records. I do have this link I will post here for your viewing pleasure to see if your info matches with mine.
http://sweetfamilyhistory.blogspot.com/2010/06/more-exposure... and herehttp://sweetgeanology.blogspot.com/

Any one that can help me find out ancestors of John and Alpha Sweet I sure would appreciate it.

 

 

Reply:

The cemetery referred to in these postings is the Worden Sweet Cemetery located in Scriba, to the west of the city of Oswego. The Sweets buried there are the descendents of Oliver Sweet who relocated there just after the turn of the 19th century. He came from East Greenwich, RI, but moved to NY after the Revolutionary War. He was in Easton, Albany, NY for the 1790 census and then in Norway, Herkimer, NY in 1800. The cemetery is located on land once owned by Joseph Worden, the son-in-law of Oliver Sweet. Unfortunately, I have never been able to find a link between this Oliver and John (and Alpha) Sweet. In terms of the cemetery itself, there is a record of the interments for the Worden Sweet Cemetery posted at findagrave.com. Good luck in your search!

 

 

Thoughts: Hmm maybe my assumption of a name change is wrong. I need to find a way to dig in to this deeper. Maybe I should email some of the people that inquired this forum. Maybe I need to dig further in to these forums. More reading to do.

Well the last couple of days I spent getting my wife set up with a google email account and a facebook account, while updating my genealogy files with new information from a few family members. I am not ready to post it to my web sites as of yet and I need to set up my 2nd site for viewing. I also want exposure to my facebook account from my blog and set up a facebook group for the Sweet family Genealogy. I am busy.

THE SWEET FAMILY OF LEEDS COUNTY

          One of my family relatives referred me to this website.

THE SWEET FAMILY OF LEEDS COUNTY

This history of the Sweet family was prepared from information gathered
from a number of sources - census records, land records, church records,
newspapers, unpublished family histories and family lore. The information is
incomplete and I am aware that there may be errors. Any comments, corrections
or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
In 1902 a short history of the family of John and Alpha Sweet appeared in
The Owl, a genealogical magazine published in Kewaunee, Wisconsin. The
information which had been provided by Senator Edmund Sweet of Menno, South
Dakota, great grandson of John and Alpha, does not always agree with information
handed down by members of the Sweet family in Leeds County.
According to Senator Sweet's account, John Sweet lived in Oswego County,
New York where all his children were born. Family lore gave the origin of the
Sweet family as Wales; bone-setting was also said to be a tradition in the
family. The article suggests that John Sweet served in the Revolutionary War,
but provides no details.
Senator Sweet relates that John Sweet died in Oswego County and shortly
thereafter his wife moved the family to Furnace Falls (Lyndhurst), Leeds County
"in order to have some of the older sons who were there assist in supporting the
family". It is possible to infer from this that the Sweet men were employed at
the Iron Works. However, the 1807 census for the Rear of Leeds lists John
Sweet's family as follows:
John Sweet
Alpheus do
Sintha
Allen
Jerod
Anna
Lydia
Eli
Frederic
William
Abigail [Abijah?]
One other son, Hiram, was born in 1809 and one census lists Clarissa, but she
has not been traced; the names correspond with Senator Sweet's recollection.
John Sweet died April 5, 1813, aged 46 year, 18 days. Alpha Sweet survived
another forty years, dying May 4, 1853, aged 86 years, 7 months and 10 days.
They are buried in the Baptist Cemetery in the Rear of Leeds.
Senator Sweet claimed that two of the sons, Allen and Jared remained in
Oswego County, but this is definitely not true; both sons appear in the 1807
census of Leeds Rear. Allen Sweet (b.1790) was a farmer, speculator and
entrepreneur. During the War of 1812 he was a sergeant in the 2nd Flank Company
of the Leeds Militia and served at Gananoque; prominent in local politics, he
represented the area at the Gourlay meeting in 1818. In later years he was
appointed a justice of the peace; he was also an active Methodist and served as
a lay preacher for many years.
Allen Sweet (1790 – 1864) married in 1810 to Rachel Knapp who subsequently died;
information provided by Chris Kenney states that there was a daughter, Rachel.
Allen Sweet remarried to Desire Sly (1793 - 1868) and they settled on lot 19,
Concession X, Leeds now known as Sweet's Corners; there they raised a family of
five:
Ira m Sibel Merrill
Amos Tibbet m Phoebe Dewolf
Electa m Asa Wing
Hester Ann m Joseph Mainse
Parthena m Skyler(Schuyler) Lake
Allen Sweet died January 3, 1864 and Desire died October 10, 1868; they are
buried at the Baptist Cemetery in the Rear of Leeds. (See below for more on
this family)
Jared Lewis Sweet (son of John and Alpha Sweet) lived in Haldimand Township,
Northumberland County and may have been engaged in the timber trade; that was
his place of residence on April 2, 1816, when he and Ziba Marcus Phillips leased
Lot 5, Concession VIII, Leeds.
Jared Sweet is not listed in the Haldimand Township census for 1861, but
the following are listed:
Sweet, Hiram 33 years W. Methodist
Samantha 30
George 12
Gerard 11
J. A. 9
M. E. 5
Johnathan 3
William 1
Sweet, John 45
Ruth 43
Polly 18
Mary? 16
Nathan 12
Angeline 8
Caroline 13
Frederick 7
Emma 5
Sephronia 3
In 1871 the census of Haldimand Township, Northumberland County lists:
Sweet, Hiram 36 years farmer W. Methodist
George 21
Jared 19
Alvy 17
Jonathan 12
Albert 8
Emmeline 14
Levy 6
Adda 4
Sweet, Jared 80 minister E. Methodist
Martha 70
The census reports that Samantha Sweet had died of dropsy in April 1870 at the
age of 35 years.
Eli T. Sweet (son of John and Alpha Sweet) was born in Oswego County, New York
May 10, 1796 and married Emma Ann Sly (born April 9, 1796) in 1817. They had
seven children:
Lydia m Robert Nuttle(Nuttall)
Elijah m Jane Chapman
Arnold Lewis m Eliza Pierson
Hannah m Myron Ripley
Miron m Kate Thorngate
Permilla m George Powers
Hiram m Aramantha Powers
In 1844 Eli T. Sweet and all his family with the exception of his
daughter, Lydia and her husband, Robert Nuttall, emigrated from
Leeds County to Wisconsin. Emma Ann Sweet died at Portland,
Wisconsin on November 11, 1861; no date is given for the death of
Eli T. Sweet. (See below for more information on this family.)
Anna Sweet (1795 – 1856) married Hiel Sliter (1795 – 1890), son of
Nicholas and Polly Sliter. The Sliter family had moved to Leeds County in 1803
where Nicholas was employed as a charcoal burner at the Iron Works at Furnace
Falls (Lyndhurst). One of seven children, Hiel Sliter was a self educated man;
he wrote a short memoir in 1858 which provides valuable insight into
early pioneer life in the area. Hiel and Anna were married in November 1815;
they settled on Lot 21, Concession X, Leeds, where they raised a family of ten:
Washington Lee m Charlotte Umphrey
Alzina m Christopher Allyn
Spencer Percival m Amelia ?
Emily Minerva m Archibald Imeson, M.D.
Alonzo m Amanda
Ernestus Chester m a. Evaline Merill
b. Jemima Ripley
Cynthia d. 1821 aged 10 mos
Joel d. 182? aged 2 mos
Pamelia d. 1825 aged 9 yrs
Estella Ophelia (1837 - 1858)
Hiel Sliter was born January 1, 1795 and died March 27, 1890; his
wife Anna died April 4, 1856. They are buried in the Baptist
Cemetery in the Rear of Leeds. (See below for more
information on this family)
Little is known about John Frederick Sweet; he married and lived in South Crosby
where he appeared on the 1841 census with his wife and five children. John
Frederick Sweet and family migrated to Wisconsin in the 1840s.
William Sweet left home when he was young and was never heard from afterwards.
Abijah Sweet (1802-1809) married Maria Rhodes (1804-1888) and
they lived in South Crosby until 1844 when they migrated to Wisconsin with
other family members. They had at least seven children:
Nicholas (1833 - 1918) m Mary Chaffee
Mahitable (1835 - 1862) m Nathan Hood
Sylvester (1838 - 1917) m Achsa Perry
Alby (1840 - 1868)
John (1845 - 1918) m Helen
George (1850 - 1930)
Scott (1854 - 1917)
Hiram N. Sweet (1809-1903) married Hannah ? (1810-1888). The family appeared in
the 1871 census of Bastard Twp.; Hiram was a carpenter and his daughter, Luva
was a schoolteacher. Hiram and his wife are buried at the Baptist Burying
Ground in the Rear of Leeds along with four of their children. Their known
family were:
Marshall Norton (1834 - 1843)
Zebulon Jesse (1837 - 1839)
Luva J. (1841 - ?)
Malissa (1841 - 1843)
John Frederick (1844 - 1845)
Murat (1847 - ? ) m Clarissa Ophelia Wood
Julia (1851 - ? )
Hiram Sweet, his wife Hannah and four of their children are buried at the
Baptist Cemetery in Leeds Rear.
Senator Sweet's account states Cynthia Sweet married Knapp McKittrick and
Lydia Sweet married a man named Davis. At present there is no information
regarding the McKittricks and Davises. Abijah Sweet, John Frederick Sweet,
Lydia Davis and their families accompanied their brother, Eli to Wisconsin in
1844.
THE FAMILY OF ALLEN AND DESIRE SWEET
Allen Sweet and Desire Sly had five children who survived to adulthood:
Ira Sweet, the oldest child of Allen and Desire Sweet, was born
May 20, 1820 and died January 16, 1893. He married Sibel Merrill
who was born in the U.S.A. May 20, 1819 and died February 20,
1887. In 1851 the family was living on lot 20, Concession VIII,
Leeds. Ira and Sibel were Episcopal Methodists and are buried in
the Halladay Cemetery, Elgin. Their children were:
Allen Miner (1842 - ?) disappeared to U. S. A.
Molly Philomela (1843 - ?) m Robert McCormack
Merrill C.(1847 - 1930) m Mary Editha (Lydydce)
Hicock
Edna S. (1848 - 1934) unmarried, buried Halladay
Cemetery
Ira /Iremius (1850 - ?) moved to Grand Rapids,
Michigan
Melvin S. (1854 - 1910) m Selora Wing
Electa (1857 - 1857) buried Halladay Cemetery
Ida S. (1858 - 1930) buried Halladay Cemetery
Eva Alpha (1861 - 1945) m John Redmond Wiltse (1859 - 1958)
(See below for more information on the family of Ira Sweet)
Amos Tibbits Sweet, second child of Allen and Desire Sweet, was
born in 1822 and died October 20, 1894. He married Phebe Dewolf
who was five or six years his senior. She died January 26, 1903
and they are both buried at the Baptist Burying Ground in the
Rear of Leeds along with two of their children, Clarissa (1856 -
1927) and William (1858 - 1863). Their third child, Allen Healy
Sweet, married Alice Hicock and raised a family of five.
Amos T. Sweet was living on Lot 13, Concession IX, Leeds Twp. in 1851;
records for the District of Johnstown show that in 1848 he was paid 10s
as a constable for his services to a coroner's jury in disinterring a body.
Allen and Desire's third child was Electa (1824 - 1851) who
married Asa Wing (1822 - 1891); she died at the age of 27 years
leaving him with two young daughters, Rachel and Rosanna, who
were mentioned in the will of their grandfather, Allen Sweet.
Asa Wing remarried to Maria Botsford; Wing and his family are
buried at the Baptist Burying Ground.
Hester Ann, the fourth child of Allen and Desire Sweet, was
born November 21, 1833. She was one of the earliest female
school teachers in the area. On October 10, 1859 she married
Joseph Mainse (born November 28, 1831) and they had three
children:
Electa Jane m Philip Robeson
Allen Sweet m Parthena Snider
Edward Topping m Susan Berry
On April 23, 1869 Joseph Mainse was killed in a fall on their
farm; Hester lived another thirty years until March 3, 1899.
They are buried at the Halladay Cemetery in Elgin.
The youngest of Allen and Desire's children was Parthena, born
in 1837 when her mother was 44 years old. She married
Schuyler(Skyler) Shibley Lake (born 1841), a carpenter from
Ernestown and they lived in the Lyndhurst area. They had no
children, but adopted several Home children. The 1891 census
lists three adopted children:
Emma age 21 years
Hiram Thompson age 15 years, born Scotland
Nellie McGeachy age 5 years, born Scotland
Parthena Lake died in 1921; Schuyler survived another six years.
They are buried at the Olivet Cemetery with their daughter,
Nellie (1885 - 1953).
THE FAMILY OF HIEL AND ANNA SLITER
Washington Lee Sliter, eldest son of Hiel and Anna was born in
1817; on December 28, 1848 he married Charlotte, daughter of
Henry and Charlotte Umphrey. The marriage was performed by Peter
Schofield of the Baptist Church of Christ and was witnessed by
Arden Kilborn and Amos Tibbitt [Sweet]. Bride, groom and witnesses were
all residing in Leeds Township at the time.
In the census of 1861 the family was enumerated in the household
of Henry Umphrey, but gave their residence as Escott:
NAME AGE
Washington Sliter 44
Charlotte " 33
Henry H. " 12
Anna M. " 9
Henrietta W. " 8
Malcolm W. " 6
Edwin E. " 1
Hiel and Anna's second surviving child, Alzina, was born in
1822. She married Christopher Allyn, an American who settled in Beverley
(Delta) and practiced the trade of stonecutter. Many of the early are the
marble tombstones in area cemeteries were manufactured in his shop. Christopher
and Alzina had at least five children:
Sherman
Pamela died February 6, 1848, aged 3 mos, 7 dys
Anna
Lester N. m Hannah Ripley
Clara L.
Christopher and Alzina Allyn are buried in the Baptist Cemetery
at Philipsville.
Third in Hiel and Anna's family was Spencer Percival Sliter who
married Amelia ??. They lived in in Leeds Township and later in
Morton. The census of 1861 lists:
NAME AGE
Percival Sliter 37
Amelia " 37
Norman H. 13
Emma Maria 11
Eugenia 9
Sarah Belle 1
Archibald E.
Other children were born later including a son, Robert Hiel.
Emma Maria Sliter married Henry H. Turner, a native of Scotland,
who taught school in Lyndhurst; since 1987 their great grandson,
Dr. Larry Christianson, has been researching the Sliter family.
Hiel and Anna's second daughter was Emily Minerva who married
Dr. Archibald Imeson June 16, 1857. Emily was a schoolteacher
but, little more is known of this family; Dr. Imeson is buried at
Philipsville.
Alonzo Sliter was the fifth surviving child; he married Amanda
Phillips? Alonzo taught school in the area, but he and his wife
lived in Brockville in later years. It is not known whether they
had any family. Alonzo died February 2, 1894 aged 64 years;
Amanda died November 20, 1901 aged 70 years. Both are buried in
Oakland Cemetery, Brockville.
The youngest of Hiel and Anna's children was Ernestus Chester
Sliter, born in 1834. He married Evaline Merrill and settled in
Athens where they had at least one child, Mary Alzina, born
February 13, 1870. Evaline died in 1881 at the age of 50 years
and Ernestus remarried to Jemima Ripley who died in 1905 in her
69th year; Ernestus survived until 1910; he and his two wives are
buried in the Halladay Cemetery, Elgin.
THE FAMILY OF ELI AND EMMA SWEET
Senator Sweet's record of the family of Eli Taylor Sweet and Emma
Ann Sly published in 1902 is presented here with additional
information.
Lydia Sweet was born June 17, 1818; on July 29, 1839 she was
married to Robert Nuttall, (born in 1817 in England) by Peter
Schofield of the Baptist Church of Christ. Witnesses were Elijah
Sweet and W. L. Sliter. They lived on Lot 18, Concession IX
where Robert farmed and ran a tavern. They had nine children:
Anna Matilda (b. 1840/1/23) m Robert Tye
Charlotte Melinda (b. 1842/1/13)
Eli John (b. 1843/12/23)
Emma I. (b. 1845?)
George Edwin (b. 1847?)
Allen E. (b. 1849?)
William L. (b. 1853?)
Robert E. (b. 1855?)
Hannah E. (b. 1857?) m Joseph N. Galway
Lydia died in 1901 and Robert in 1905; they are buried at Olivet
Cemetery.
The remaining children of Eli and Emma Sweet moved with their
parents to Wisconsin in 1844; they were:
Elijah, born April 7, 1820; married in 1841 to Jane Chapman.
He died at Reedsburg, Wisconsin, in 1895; Eli and Jane had five
children: Eli, Mary, Alice, William and Edward.
Arnold Lewis, born January 23, 1822; married July 16, 1848 to
Eliza Pearson. He died at Sun Prairie, Wisconsin, August 3,
1900; Lewis and Eliza's children were Edmund Theodore, Anna and
Charles Edwin. Edmund Theodore (b. 1849/4/30) married Julia
Harris and eventually settled in Menno, S. D. where he was a
stockman and state senator. He and his wife had four children:
Oliver, Edmund, Julia, Jessie (died age 7 months). Anna Sweet
(b. 1851/7/16) married Alfred Cobb; they lived in Sun Prairie, WI
and had one son, Ollie. Charles E. Sweet (b. 1853/1/12) married
Ella Hecker and remained on the homestead at Sun Prairie where
they raised three children: Edmund, Julia, Josie.
Hannah, born November 6, 1823; married Myron Ripley in 1846;
lived near Sun Prairie, Wisconsin where she died December 6,
1856. Their children were Esther, Permilia and Lydia.
Miron, born November 29, 1826; married Kate Thorngate in 1856.
They had five children: Francis, George, Arthur, Nettie and
Albert; Miron and Kate moved to Warner, S. D., where they were
living in 1902.
Permilia, born January 14, 1833; married George Powers and in
1902 they were living in Devil's Lake, N. D. Their two children
were Hannah and Lewis.
Hiram, born February 21, 1834; married Aramantha Powers in
1850. In 1902 they were living in Marshall, Wisconsin; their
three children were Elmer, Alver and Mary.
THE FAMILY OF IRA SWEET AND SIBEL MERRILL
Ira Sweet and Sibel Merrill had eight children; of these,
Electa died before her first birthday and Edna and Ida never
married. The remaining children were:
Allen Miner (b. 1841?) disappeared to the United States never
to be heard from again; the following household is enumerated in the 1880 census
for Beaver, Newaygo County, Michigan:
Allen SWEET - Male Birth: <1838> CAN
Nansy SWEET - Wife Gender: Female Birth: <1838> CAN
Charles SWEET - Son Gender: Male Birth: <1872> MI
Sarah REDDING - MotherL Gender: Female Birth: <1791> CAN
Molly Philomela (b. 1842?), married Robert McCormack; no further
information at this time;
Merrill C. Sweet (1847 – 1930), married Mary Editha Hicock
(1846 - 1921); They had six children:
Miner (1872 - 1927) m Mary Smith (1872 - )
Bertha (1871 - 1938) m Edwin Putnam (1871 - 1941)
Hattie (1875 - 1970) m Pockrage Mustard (1871 - 1959)
Austin (1878 - 1934) m Estella Gertrude Brown
(1880 - 1932)
Mary (1882 - 1886)
Edith (1885 - 1886)
Ira/ Iremius Sweet, born 1850; moved to Grand Rapids, Michigan;
there has been no contact with this family since they left Leeds
County.
Melvin S. Sweet(1854 - 1910) married Selora Wing (1856 -
1919); they lived at Sweet's Corner and had four children:
Celia (1879 - 1939) m Frank Truman Wiltse
Gordon(1882-1938) m Geneva Bell(1881-1939)
Raymond Wing(1893-1977) m Zella Slack(1891-1975)
Carl m Iva Kenny(
Zella(1902 – 1957) m Clarence Kenny(1900 – 1973)
Eva Alpha (1861 - 1945) married John Redmond Wiltse (1859 – 1958), a
cheesemaker from Plum Hollow; they had three children:
Clifford Stanley (1887 – 1966)
Lena Rebecca (1893 – 1966)
Charles Artemus (1901 – 1984) m Eva Laura Cowles
Keith Sly

November 2004

Bow this has me reeling because I can't find any paper trail that is completely reliable so far and I been working on and off since 1986. My Aunt from my Mothers side helped me because she does this kind of research and she told me that there is a problem because Oswago, New Youk's City hall burned down with all the records.

Also I joined the Sweet Family DNA Project a few years ago. I found out our line is not part of the main lineage that had confirmed paper trail to Ireland. This leads me to believe that prior to John and Alpha or during Johns life that a name changed occurred; Although my DNA shows link to Ireland, England, France and Germany. DNA can't lie and all the Sweets in the main Sweet study do not match with several claims but there are several other Sweet lines with different spellings of the name. Also besides their group spellings There are clusters of DNA samples that do not confirm they actually are Sweets. I found that there are  at the 12 Marker - Exact Match 29 Match(es) and when I check the maps I find that the names are different and that they are in Ireland, England and France. So my conclusion is We are at an end unless some family member knows where they can get documents to prove this paper trail that has been stopped by fire in a burnt down court house in Oswago, New York.

 

I am still inputting data in my family tree program and making changes as I get them.

I will continue to scour everywhere.