Friday, December 10, 2010

Past emails with the then John Chandler who has since moved on.

These are discussions we had:

I hope this doesn't bore some one to Death.
This was the information that led to me not being part of the Sweet's they were studding.
You can visit this site for the direct results as I can't find the email from when John Chandler told me I was not part of the followed group. Sweet/Swet DNA Project

 
Bob,
   Thanks for the test file.  It appears that your line is one of many
that participated in the settlement of upstate New York.  That area 
attracted settlers from all over New England, including Rhode Island,
and so it is quite possible that you are related to one of the Sweet
lines already in the DNA project.  It is unfortunate that your earliest
known ancestor was named John, and with no confirmed dates, too.  That
makes it likely his origins will always be a little uncertain.  For the
DNA project, we need at least a few lines with solid anchors for
comparison with all the others who have (inevitably) some question marks
in their ancestry.  I'm afraid I can't justify digging into the pot to
pay for a new kit for you (and, besides, the pot doesn't have enough
in it anyhow).  However, I do have the one kit already on order with a
$25 discount, and I'll stand by my offer to assign that one to you, or
to one of your cousins.  You mentioned a cousin who might help out, and
perhaps you could persuade him to take the test himself if he won't pay
for yours.  Let me know what you come up with.  Good luck.

     John
And this later on:
This is the ninth distribution of the Sweet/Swett DNA project open
directory.  The project has been growing slowly, but it has indeed
been growing, and so, after more than ten months, it is time for
another distribution.  There are seven new members since the last
notice, and there are also many new results posted on our web site.
Three of the new haplotypes are near-matches for the Pattern 1
cluster, and one matches Pattern 2.  Three others do not seem to match
anyone yet.

In the seventh bulletin, I mentioned that the SMGF database included a
SWEAT and urged all members to use the search index to check for
near-matches of their own results at SMGF.  Since then, the SMGF
database has added the capability of searching by surname alone, and I
was able to find this SWEAT and determine his haplotype and examine
the pedigree he submitted with his DNA sample.  The pedigree states
that he is a descendant of John SWETT of Newbury, but his haplotype
does not match Pattern 2 at all well.  That may mean there is a
mistake in his genealogy, but, since he is not contactable, we
cannot compare notes.  The best we can say at this point is that
one of the links in his line was apparently conceived before the
parents were married, and the biological father may have been
someone other than the husband.

The latest is yet another match to the pair 13407 and 23714 who share
a mutation from Pattern 1.  This new member, 60265, seems to be linked
to 13407, even though 23714 has not yet made the hoped-for breakthrough.

Another recent development is the entry into our project of members
who started out as participants in the Genographic Project (sponsored
by the National Geographic, among others).  That project is attracting
interest in DNA testing from the standpoint of anthropology, but is
now beginning to draw some participants over into genealogy as well.
Of the three who have done so, one matches Pattern 1, one matches
Pattern 2, and one has no matches yet.

You will find that the list of recipients of this message consists of
the list of all participants who have so far opted into the list.
Instead of each person's name, you will see the FTDNA kit number.  If
you notice an entry in the results table or the lineage page and want
to compare notes with that person, just look for the kit number in the
above recipient list and send a message to that address.  If you have
trouble getting through, let me know.  If the person you want to contact
has not yet joined the list, then you'll just have to wait.

                                      John Chandler
Next:
This is the tenth distribution of the Sweet/Swett DNA project open
directory.  The level of activity has picked up again in the project,
and so I'm sending out a new bulletin after only a month.  There is
one new member since the last notice, and there are also some new
results posted on our web site.  One member seems to have a problem
with his email and/or has changed it (47939).  The listed address did
not work last time, but I am trying it again in hopes that the
situation has gone back to normal.  If not, I will investigate and
will let you know when I have a working address again.

The latest development is an interesting one: after three years of
operation, the project has finally reached the stage of including
members from more than one haplogroup.  Until this past month, all
members of the project were in haplogroup R1b, the predominant
haplogroup in western Europe, but we now have three members in the
second most common haplogroup (I).  Two of these new members are
related, but the third is separate.  There is no evidence of a
connection between the two and the one, aside from the fact that all
three use the surname SWETT.  Genetically, the two are too far from
the one to be related within genealogical time, but, for the time
being, these three together are designated "Pattern 3".  We may need
to subdivide this pattern when and if more haplogroup I members come
along.

There is a new feature on the main web page -- if you click on a
kit number in Table 1, you navigate directly to the location of
that person on the lineage page (or to a list of "lineage not
available" at the top of the page).

One more detail about the three-way match of 13407, 23714, and 60265.
All three have now been extended to 37 markers, and they differ only
at the compound marker CDY.  60265 splits the difference between the
other two and thus reinforces the likelihood that all three are
closely related.

You will find that the list of recipients of this message consists of
the list of all participants who have so far opted into the list.
Instead of each person's name, you will see the FTDNA kit number.  If
you notice an entry in the results table or the lineage page and want
to compare notes with that person, just look for the kit number in the
above recipient list and send a message to that address.  If you have
trouble getting through, let me know.  If the person you want to contact
has not yet joined the list, then you'll just have to wait.

                                      John Chandler


next:

This is the eleventh distribution of the Sweet/Swett DNA project open
directory.  There are four new members since the last notice, and
there are also some new results posted on our web site.  The latest
additions have been in the SWETT group, which now has nine matching
haplotypes.  Meanwhile, two more participants have just joined.

There is a new feature on the main web page -- the entries in Table 1
(the DNA results) which are continued in Table 2 are marked with an
"arrow" at the end of the row.

You will find that the list of recipients of this message consists of
the list of all participants who have so far opted into the list.
Instead of each person's name, you will see the FTDNA kit number.  If
you notice an entry in the results table or the lineage page and want
to compare notes with that person, just look for the kit number in the
above recipient list and send a message to that address.  If you have
trouble getting through, let me know.  If the person you want to contact
has not yet joined the list, then you'll just have to wait.

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